Horrible disaster but I wonder if we’re again making ”carbon” more big of a bogeyman than it is.
I wonder if the major infrastructure drilling works China has apparently been doing in Tibet had some impact on the young Himalayas.
Could be a bit of an unfortunate “perfect storm” of everything.
People who decide to build and live by the river also take a risk (but if they’re poor maybe they don’t have a choice and they’re happy to take the tourism money).
Still, these kind of glacier landslides happen regularly. An entire town was buried in Peru in the 70s. Back then we didn’t have surveillance cameras and phones to record everything.
The US had already offered aid, was providing aid before USAID was cut, and now their attitude is that we caused it? After PRC-built infrastructure collapsed? Jesus Christ. This is not how you ask the US for money.
You say "the communists did this, we are not communists," then we can help.
Saying nothing would have been better than than this. Why would you blame the countries capable of assisting? The money you're requesting comes from using oil and gas. Ask Europe. They'll buy this argument.
We are stopping our requests for charity and demanding that big polluters like the US, China, and India pay for the climate damage they cause.
Even though Nepal produces almost zero global emissions, we suffer heavily from melting glaciers and after that severe floods, meaning major countries have a responsibility to cover these costs rather than just offering aid after disasters strike .
Demand how? Nepal doesn't have the military capabilities to be making demands of the United States. And with this attitude they're much less likely to receive any aid at all. Any source of funding could be traced back to some industry that caused pollution anyway. Someone has to fly a plane in order to deliver the aid and repair infrastructure.
Climate injustice is a nonsense argument. Demanding help from someone while you accuse them of oppression is insane. They're just going to cut you off from any assistance at all. There is no international court system that can punish and fine the US.
Lol watch out Nepal is going to send its military to your front door and kick it down!
Like you said, millions, if not billions, of dollars in aid have been sent to the country by the US over the decades. That was only possible because of innovation, which raised the standard of living around the world, and cheap electricity supplies. The U.S. has lowered its emissions by 18% since 2005, even with significant increases in electricity demand.
Since 2005, the U.S. has equaled the entire EU bloc in the amount of CO2 tonnage cut (1423 million metric tons or a 24% decrease). China... roughly 4000 million metric tons increase.
Even with all the headlines about how the US has abandoned climate responsibility, states like Texas, which people think of as an oil and gas area, are setting records with the gigawatts of low-emission baseload energy being added.
Nepal's demand is quite logical; the problem is getting major nations like the United States and China to comply. The world is being destroyed by climate change, the degradation of animal habitats, and the melting of glaciers. This is everyone's responsibility, not just that of the major powers, but Nepal, in a way, is right.
The world was destroyed many times over by England, France, Belgium, Germany, Portugal and Spain. They still haven't paid the bill on all that colonial crap from three or four centuries ago...
How many Dresdens and Hiroshimas would it cost to pay the bill? If you want ethnic revenge be a man about it. Don't file a request with the UN for some slow drip of donations that they don't want to pay. Go make them pay. Be the solution you want to see.
WTF are you talking about. Obviously, you're still bent on yesterday's conversation. I'm actually in agreement with the original post that Nepal is bent. Do I literally have to write CYNICAL/SARCASTIC post at the beginning for your pea brain to see it in the wording? Kids these days...
Do I literally have to write CYNICAL/SARCASTIC post at the beginning for your pea brain to see it in the wording?
If it's barely one word away from what I'd expect to hear from a high-ranking Canadian politician, yes. These are the stakes and the arguments that we're up against.
Horrible disaster but I wonder if we’re again making ”carbon” more big of a bogeyman than it is.
I wonder if the major infrastructure drilling works China has apparently been doing in Tibet had some impact on the young Himalayas.
Could be a bit of an unfortunate “perfect storm” of everything.
People who decide to build and live by the river also take a risk (but if they’re poor maybe they don’t have a choice and they’re happy to take the tourism money).
Still, these kind of glacier landslides happen regularly. An entire town was buried in Peru in the 70s. Back then we didn’t have surveillance cameras and phones to record everything.
The US had already offered aid, was providing aid before USAID was cut, and now their attitude is that we caused it? After PRC-built infrastructure collapsed? Jesus Christ. This is not how you ask the US for money.
You say "the communists did this, we are not communists," then we can help.
Saying nothing would have been better than than this. Why would you blame the countries capable of assisting? The money you're requesting comes from using oil and gas. Ask Europe. They'll buy this argument.
We are stopping our requests for charity and demanding that big polluters like the US, China, and India pay for the climate damage they cause.
Even though Nepal produces almost zero global emissions, we suffer heavily from melting glaciers and after that severe floods, meaning major countries have a responsibility to cover these costs rather than just offering aid after disasters strike .
Demand how? Nepal doesn't have the military capabilities to be making demands of the United States. And with this attitude they're much less likely to receive any aid at all. Any source of funding could be traced back to some industry that caused pollution anyway. Someone has to fly a plane in order to deliver the aid and repair infrastructure.
Climate injustice is a nonsense argument. Demanding help from someone while you accuse them of oppression is insane. They're just going to cut you off from any assistance at all. There is no international court system that can punish and fine the US.
Lol watch out Nepal is going to send its military to your front door and kick it down!
Like you said, millions, if not billions, of dollars in aid have been sent to the country by the US over the decades. That was only possible because of innovation, which raised the standard of living around the world, and cheap electricity supplies. The U.S. has lowered its emissions by 18% since 2005, even with significant increases in electricity demand.
Since 2005, the U.S. has equaled the entire EU bloc in the amount of CO2 tonnage cut (1423 million metric tons or a 24% decrease). China... roughly 4000 million metric tons increase.
Even with all the headlines about how the US has abandoned climate responsibility, states like Texas, which people think of as an oil and gas area, are setting records with the gigawatts of low-emission baseload energy being added.
Nepal's demand is quite logical; the problem is getting major nations like the United States and China to comply. The world is being destroyed by climate change, the degradation of animal habitats, and the melting of glaciers. This is everyone's responsibility, not just that of the major powers, but Nepal, in a way, is right.
The world was destroyed many times over by England, France, Belgium, Germany, Portugal and Spain. They still haven't paid the bill on all that colonial crap from three or four centuries ago...
How many Dresdens and Hiroshimas would it cost to pay the bill? If you want ethnic revenge be a man about it. Don't file a request with the UN for some slow drip of donations that they don't want to pay. Go make them pay. Be the solution you want to see.
WTF are you talking about. Obviously, you're still bent on yesterday's conversation. I'm actually in agreement with the original post that Nepal is bent. Do I literally have to write CYNICAL/SARCASTIC post at the beginning for your pea brain to see it in the wording? Kids these days...
If it's barely one word away from what I'd expect to hear from a high-ranking Canadian politician, yes. These are the stakes and the arguments that we're up against.