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Your two sentences contradict each other: Can you give any other reason why Lightning has a liveness requirement other than to prevent your funds from being drained?...
Hello? @Scoresby ? You stopped replying instead of explicitly acknowledging that keeping your Lightning node online is what protects your wallet from being drained?...
I am happy to explicitly acknowledge that keeping your lightning wallet online is important to prevent it from getting drained.
I stopped responding because we apparently disagree about what is honorable.
Saying that you caught someone trying to drain lightning wallets when all you did is see that they posted a tweet (which everyone else can also see) saying that lightning does not require leaves, even if the tweet implies that lightning does not need you to come online (which I don't think it does) is clearly not catching someone draining wallets.
Arguing about trade offs between Ark and Lightning is fine. Call each other all the names you like, but you lesson yourself when you try to twist it into "caught trying to drain lightning wallets."
they posted a tweet saying that lightning does not require leaves, even if the tweet implies that lightning does not need you to come online (which I don't think it does)
It's obvious the tweet claims that Lightning would allow your phone to sleep. What other possible interpretation could you extract from the statement?...
The tweet is not some exhaustive statement about lightning.
You took your own imference of it and then added that Justin was "caught trying to drain wallets"
This is a huge leap. If you think it is honorable to make such a leap, I don't know what else to say. I'm going to sleep.
I'll ask again:
What other possible interpretation could you extract from the statement?
Many people wouldn't take it beyond what it directly says, which is commentary about how Justin sees Ark working.
But to me that isn't terribly relevant. In my book, it is never acceptable to make the claim that you "caught someone trying to drain wallets" when you have zero evidence of the actual act.
A tweet buried in a thread where you two are arguing about Ark is hardly some evil plot to trick innocent users.
Many people wouldn't take it beyond what it directly says, which is commentary about how Justin sees Ark working.
Justin's commentary is directly about how Lightning works, read my proof again:
Lightning doesn't require leaves from a central coordinator that expire while the dum dum using it on a phone sleeps because they were too lazy/stupid to just run a lightning node
If a lightning user reads Justin's comment and follows his instructions to just run a lightning node on their sleeping phone, their funds will get drained.
it is never acceptable to make the claim that you "caught someone trying to drain wallets" when you have zero evidence of the actual act.
Bro, the Tweet is a DIRECT QUOTE, there's absolutely nothing ambiguous about my evidence, it's a smoking gun. You already explicitly acknowledged that keeping your lightning wallet online is important to prevent it from getting drained - #1569234
A tweet buried in a thread where you two are arguing about Ark is hardly some evil plot to trick innocent users.
Really? Why else would he seek out my post to spread misinformation that would allow Lightning wallets to get drained? Is there some other interpretation of his statement you would like to share?
I didn't even suggest mobile lightning was safe, I'm literally the only one not making a mobile node at this point
Justice transactions still make it safer than ark though 🤣
I agree that lightning and ark both have liveness requirements. I don't agree that Justin's statement makes "caught trying to drain lightning wallets"
Argue on the merits of the topic, don't make up ridiculous claims about someone being a scammer.