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I'll ask again:

What other possible interpretation could you extract from the statement?

Many people wouldn't take it beyond what it directly says, which is commentary about how Justin sees Ark working.

But to me that isn't terribly relevant. In my book, it is never acceptable to make the claim that you "caught someone trying to drain wallets" when you have zero evidence of the actual act.

A tweet buried in a thread where you two are arguing about Ark is hardly some evil plot to trick innocent users.

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212 sats \ 8 replies \ @Kruw OP 17h
Many people wouldn't take it beyond what it directly says, which is commentary about how Justin sees Ark working.

Justin's commentary is directly about how Lightning works, read my proof again:

Lightning doesn't require leaves from a central coordinator that expire while the dum dum using it on a phone sleeps because they were too lazy/stupid to just run a lightning node

If a lightning user reads Justin's comment and follows his instructions to just run a lightning node on their sleeping phone, their funds will get drained.

it is never acceptable to make the claim that you "caught someone trying to drain wallets" when you have zero evidence of the actual act.

Bro, the Tweet is a DIRECT QUOTE, there's absolutely nothing ambiguous about my evidence, it's a smoking gun. You already explicitly acknowledged that keeping your lightning wallet online is important to prevent it from getting drained - #1569234

A tweet buried in a thread where you two are arguing about Ark is hardly some evil plot to trick innocent users.

Really? Why else would he seek out my post to spread misinformation that would allow Lightning wallets to get drained? Is there some other interpretation of his statement you would like to share?

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12 sats \ 7 replies \ @Scoresby 9h

I misread the tweet, so you are right that it's about lightning. That still doesn't make it a smoking gun. Nor does it warrant the title you put on the post.

Again, I will reiterate: there is nowhere near enough grounds here to call him a scammer, no to merit the statement that you caught him trying to drain wallets.

I'm don't often agree with him nor do I have any reason to defend him, but it seems very clear to me that no one is draining any wallets here.

These kind of headlines serve no one and only help to make real scammers seem legitimate.

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233 sats \ 6 replies \ @Kruw OP 9h

You already explicitly acknowledged that keeping your lightning wallet online is important to prevent it from getting drained. Justin's post claims the exact opposite, which is what makes it a smoking gun.

Maybe you should ask Justin to delete his post so users don't have their Lightning wallets drained? If he's honest, he would have no issue doing so. If he's a scammer, he will leave it up and cause innocent Bitcoiners to lose their money.

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19 sats \ 5 replies \ @Scoresby 9h

At this point you both are dug in to your positions and unlikely to do anything I ask.

Of the sins before me, accusing someone of stealing without serious evidence is the worse.

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102 sats \ 4 replies \ @Kruw OP 4h

If you thought Justin is honest and not a scammer, you would not consider it "unlikely" that Justin would delete his post.

I'll ask him for you and prove he's scamming deliberately since apparently you still think there's a chance he made an honest mistake:

Hey @justin_shocknet - @Scoresby confirmed that lightning funds can be drained from a sleeping phone. Could you delete your post so that innocent Bitcoiners don't lose their money?

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I never said that they couldn't be, you just can't read. What's more, I've been posting for years how retarded it is to run Lightning from a phone.... I literally make THE anti-phone node.

What I was pointing to was that Ark is marketed to retarded people, the same kind that would run Lightning on a phone and complain about it.

Lightning doesn't require leaves from a central coordinator that expire while the dum dum using it on a phone sleeps because they were too lazy/stupid to just run a lightning node

Does Lightning have leaves? Does Lightning have a central coordinator you need to get them from?

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212 sats \ 1 reply \ @Kruw OP 4h

See @Scoresby ? The scammer confirmed he won't delete his post that will cause innocent Bitcoiners to lose their money.

If you were just a bit more educated in the work Justin and the SHOCK team are doing, you would have realized that none of their products offer a mobile node. The node, Lightning.pub, which sits somewhere else, is always on and is not connected in any way to the mobile hardware that has ShockWallet.app installed on it.

I really do not see why you have such stubbornness in proving something that isn't. Are you trying to create a religion about this? A cult?

I highly suggest you dig into the code before making any accusation based on a tweet that perhaps could have been published by an automated system.

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