This is a very lengthy article. @lopp has clearly been saving some receipts. It's a bit if an exercise in beating a dead horse, but if that's your thing, you might enjoy it.
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This is a very lengthy article. @lopp has clearly been saving some receipts. It's a bit if an exercise in beating a dead horse, but if that's your thing, you might enjoy it.
Even the postmortem contains 99% bullshit on X / screenshots from monologues broadcasted on YT. On the tweeter it's all one/two-liners of exponential escalation and doubling down, on YT it's all conspiracy theory. The few articles that are posted aren't seeking dialogue and on GitHub there was no discussion either. Mailing list posts are more announcements than discussions.
We're never going to resolve any differences this way, but we shouldn't forget that we need total, exclusive consensus to stay whole. We can afford a whole bunch more forks, especially of this size, but at one point we will have to ask ourselves: what's left?
nah, we need a good round of purging once in a while. Slaying heroes, etc
Agreed, but remember that you need growth on the other end of that. We're seeing some degrowth in the solution space right now, 2 tribes forking off, lost an alternative implementation, ragequits to AI... if there's only things being chipped off the whole, then growth has to happen before there is nothing left.
I personally wouldn't mind a smaller, more focused community. There are plenty fronts where things are constructive still and it's ok for now. However, do note that the loudest people on the side that was pestering the BIP-110ers for lulz are not among the constructive ones either, yet they nearly all have their pet BIPs themselves.
Fair; we're not growing... Which, I think, is actually_why_ we see this incessant infighting
"Bear" market blues? (Even though this isn't even a bear market yet, my spends only hurt twice as hard as at peak, lol)
This
simply wrong
try raising children like that and you'll wake up dead
Do you mean it is wrong that it is so, or do you mean that I am wrong because it is not so?
is "the tree of liberty must be ..." about bleeding "tyrant", singular, or simply general advice about survival as a thinking species?
I refuse to climb further out on this twig, because you @optimism seem to think "we" has a self-evident interpetaton, in the context of "diistributed multi-member signature" CRDT politics, i.e.
if a tree is designed to be "of liberty" in a way that codifies that you're either in or out, does "must" require any advice?
"We" is simply the body of people that interact with Bitcoin in this whole situation, that make choices towards what Bitcoin is and isn't. People need consensus to interact through the network, because if you disagree with your counterparty (also if this is a custodian) about the consensus layer, you won't be able to transact directly.
"arroyo" might be a good word to introduce into the soup
a pretty neat summary I hadn't even considered... yeah, obviously it failed... had no economic weight AND didn't even bring anything new/improved to the table!
Lol 😆
This is like a Tarantino movie 🎬 you can skip through it, or watch every second
And then you can rewatch it and get a bit more each time!
I am in a bit of a quandary tho, weren't we supposed to reject all these bitflooencers, and Lopp is quite a famous influencer, but this is a brilliant hit piece and he obviously knows a bit about Bitcoin and it's history
My infatuation with Paul Sztorc's HF, makes me think that, everyone thinks they can make Bitcoin better, reading Lopp makes me think, even with billions of dollars to bankroll a superior version, you just can't
The bip110ers really did fafo
please try just rejecting "cancel culture" wholesale, rather than stereotyping some guy just because he got a millenial techbro beard for his avatar and ruled public opinion for sixteen minutes of blame
🙏
Writing this must have been a cathartic experience for him, just like reading it was for me.
The main question I still have: Was BIP-110 avoidable? Did we just witness human nature, or did the medium of most exchange, the internet, something I called a resentment machine in one of my journal entries, cause it for the most part?
How specifically do you mean that?
Not very, I think. My question is less about BIP-110 specifically and more about how we can discuss controversial ideas without throwing virtual shit at each other again, with everyone and their mom taking a side, including me.
For example, I must admit, I forgot there are usually more than just two sides to a debate. It became very black and white. And I def think less of everyone who supported BIP-110. I considered keeping receipts, but I didn’t.
What led you to react that way? I never particularly cared who supported what.
I did stop following people on both sides who routinely made bad faith arguments, though.
why use verbose script when politic also grug
no
When I wrote back in winter that Roger Ver = Luke Dashjr for this cycle, I felt a LITTLE bad (#1525907). That was too much, right?
In hindsight: nope it absolutely correct. Spot on. Aaaaand look at all these other people who agree with me!
Weird thing to say, but it gives me immense satisfaction to read what appears to be human writing.
that's not weird... very predictable, value/appreciating going to what's scarce
fuck, 38 min read.
Alright, that's my Monday night -.-
after I stopped pasting copy into a speedreading script and returned to reliance on "Reader Mode" of regular browsers, I began comparing these estimates
honestly, I find them worse than useless, because my anger at some dumb data wrangler calculating the mode and lopping off all tails for the sake of putting some single number on screen, rather than a range... at best, such impotent rage merely distracts from what was I gonna read anyway?
there's an entire scene in Snow Crash about fingerprinting of an employee's reading pace to determine whether the human is actually reading the memo... no points for guessing which bureaucracy fears lack of comprehension, trusts that "biometric", and even budgets for deploying the spyware.