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Need a wallet that will enable me to receive Ocean mining ⛏️ rewards over Lightning Bolt12 and will let me verify the message - any suggestions or ideas?

You should definitely try out Lexe! We've been working with Ocean for a long time now, and a lot of our users come from Ocean. Lexe's mobile app is one of the easiest ways to get a Lightning node online 24/7, with free node hosting. And we're self-custodial, unlike Coinos. We're also fans of Phoenix but with Phoenix you'll have problems receiving whenever your phone is offline.

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please stop call it "self-custodial" when is running on a remote server that user have no control.

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False. We don't have control either, and can't read the user's secrets - that's the point of running the node in a TEE. All node code is open-source, auditable, and bit-for-bit reproducible, and clients verify the enclave's remote attestation before connecting.

Educate yourself.

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Is totally useless if your server /domain goes bust... Yes you cannot control user's node details, traffic etc, but for the user is totally useless that control if they do not control the hardware and domain where the node is running.
This is exactly the same situation as was Mutiny.
Not your hardware... not your node.

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If our server or domain goes away, users recover their funds from their channel state backed up in their Google Drive. What's the problem here? You still haven't named a single thing that could go wrong with our architecture.

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You still haven't named a single thing that could go wrong with our architecture.

EXACTLY that architecture that I depend of your infrastructure to be able to make payments... that's not self-custody, is just renting hardware.
It doesn't serve me if I can recover the funds by force closing a channel. I need that wallet to MAKE payments.

Call it whatever you want but don't bullshit me that is "self-custody", when is not.
I have nothing against custodial wallets, but at least don't lie the users. Just say it clearly what it is, not bullshit lies trying to fool noobs.

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Self-custody means only you hold the keys and no one else can spend your money, which is exactly what Lexe provides.

If you want to make payments from your Lexe wallet without using any of Lexe's hardware, then you can run a LDK node on your own machine using your Lexe seedphrase and channel state and make payments that way.

You can continue to waste everyone's time keyboard warrioring for your own revisionist definition of "self-custody" while also completely failing to understand how Lexe works, but that doesn't change what everyone else understands "self-custody" to mean.

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2 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jer 1 Jul

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I don't have a direct answer to your question. I just use my CLN node for the payout. I do want to point out, though, that you must sign the message with an on chain wallet, completely separate from the LN wallet where you will receive the funds.

I know people who use coinos, which apparently makes it easy.

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Living on the edge with that CLN node o

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83 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 30 Jun

Yeah, just using coinos would have saved me a lot of time and frustration. I'm a masochist.

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hahaha

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154 sats \ 1 reply \ @nout 1 Jul

Phoenix is good, but haven't confirmed it would work with Ocean

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still doesn't work with Ocean, unfortunately as you can't put the correct description.

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Coinos with auto withdrawal. Not ideal. But receiving BOLT12 payments privately to CLN is not frictionless at all.

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