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I woke up this morning to the ~Music territory being archived already. To provide continuity I've revived it at CDT midnight. This allows the discussions in #1470988 and #1471647 about shared management a chance to complete and be executed (or discarded.)

Pending that resolving, I'll just keep the territory functional. I don't necessarily want to control it - I think it is better in the hands of a consortium of stackers or otherwise an actual musician. There's a wide range of solutions for this and transfer is a click away.

Cheers, and let's figure this out.

Regarding a smart contract to issue shares [1], I've quickly glanced at RGB's client-side smart contract capabilities and I do think that this can be developed on that stack. Maybe @dr_orlovsky can weigh in / advice.

The idea would be to raise 3M sats through share issuance for a permanent territory, and apportion revenues. As I have in the past built real-world apportionment systems for (very) large JVs, this is not as easy as I make it sound here, but it can definitely be developed.

  1. See the discussion under #1471677

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248 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 16 Apr

I think we can manage this without being money transmitters - everyone is paying SN, and refunds come from SN.

It sounds like a thousand lines of code or so and a couple database tables.

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Please, implement it. Crowdfunded territories sounds like a good idea

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Alright, here's what I did:

  1. Created a nostr key and a shockwallet (in bootstrap mode)
  2. Created account snmusic
  3. Attached the Shockwallet through CLINK
  4. Transferred the territory to the account, set the territory to auto-renew.
  5. Transferred 2351 sats in territory revenue earned to my account from the past 2 days into the wallet

Now we have:

  • Nicely separated accounting
  • Shareable account and wallet
  • I don't mind getting the accounting going and building some tools to make it less of a chore, but if any of you insists of doing it instead of me, I won't complain.

To receive the account information, you need:

  1. A secure means of comms. I can use nostr DMs or something like whitenoise.
  2. A PGP key or OpenSSL installed
  3. A means to securely store the information (password manager)

Next step: Invoicing each 4 of us for 12,500 sats. Prefer to do this over chat because I can't seem to change the invoice expiry (1h) so this needs some coordination.

cc: @siggy47 @BlokchainB @OT

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224 sats \ 1 reply \ @Public_N_M_E 7h

2351 revenue in 2 days. That's better than I got in most months.

A bunch of names came out the woodwork recently to help keep it going which is great.

There are also some names I've never seen in the territory until now contributing to it's upkeep. Hard not to ask, where have they been the last 2 years?

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That's better than I got in most months.

It's because there's been a lot of discussion about the future of the territory in those 2 days; it's not representative.

where have they been the last 2 years?

Lurking/zapping perhaps.

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Why the PGP key?

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Because you encrypt key packages regardless of the wire encryption. Never rely on transport layer security alone, because that would put the key material unencrypted in your phone/laptop memory every time you open the chat. OpenSSL is fine too.. just need some form of file encryption.

PS: do you have an npub? You dont have one listed on your SN profile. If you don't want to share publicly, just send me a DM or whitenoise message on my listed npub (npub13wvyk39304nxjpkx077uha6zt9ge9aqyrtenp50rjx6tlutghhes6rk47y) and we'll do the auth-check with a codeword.

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npub18zc85v0nkg7maw04nh4hhmzmnych876qygsxnq8nszwsk69tl9vscy44j4

I tried to learn PGP a few years back but I felt like I was learning something that I would ever hardly use.

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I can make a custom app for this too but that's next level effort lol

DM'd you from Amethyst to see if that works

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DM you back

why do that?

why not use keychat for secure comms?

Or keet?

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Because now that I have a successful chat with you, all of us have this. We can use something else too. (Also, I'm working with the SN team on a native encryption project so this ought to be temporary :-)

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Ahh okay. Did you get my DM?

80 sats \ 9 replies \ @OT 18 Apr

Thanks for doing this!

I'll try get those things sorted in the next few hours. I think I have White noise, just haven't used it with anyone yet.

The PGP stuff I'll have to look into. I've used it to verify software but never had any PGP keys myself.

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I DM'd you on nostr as a test from Amethyst, but it is always the question whether it works with those DMs. Used my SN-listed npub and sent to your SN-listed npub.

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80 sats \ 5 replies \ @OT 18 Apr

DM'd you in Whitenoise

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separate key?

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11 sats \ 3 replies \ @OT 18 Apr

no, for the LN invoice

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No i mean, did you use the same npub? Because it's different haha

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80 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 18 Apr

Yeah, I try not to import that nsec into too many different apps.

80 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 18 Apr

A2798AF4235504D3F7A358361BDEAAD46D995099

PGP keys

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80 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 18 Apr

I saw your msg earlier but unfortunately unable to get get any feed on nostr at the moment. It happens sometimes...

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I like it all. You can nostr DM me. I wanted to check out white noise anyway.

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You can nostr DM me.

Already did

I wanted to check out white noise anyway.

Also sent you on whitenoise

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80 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 18 Apr

Nothing yet. I tried a few clients. You and I have had this problem before. It's not you, it's me😀

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Also not on whitenoise? wth!

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80 sats \ 0 replies \ @Angie 17h

Este salón de música me gusta, he descubierto canciones nunca oídas incluso de jhon lenon y otros aunque las he buscado mayormente por YouTube pero despertarme y escuchar música es muy relajante en especial porque el tono de la alarma de mi esposo son tambores 😂 así que mantengan el salón

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I'll contribute to being part owner. Keep me in the loop

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Invoice me for 25k sats I am willing to help

Or 50k if you want full refund

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I am quite sure that there's prorated refund-on-transfer so please don't worry about it for the moment!

It's more important that we figure out who wants in, I've seen 4 stackers interested to chip in thus far.

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155 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 16 Apr

I'm up for joining. I feel like the territory is up my alley.

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I'll write out a proposal today.

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I am definitely in. Just let me know when and where to zap.

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Okay let me know if you ever need assistance

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You're one of the 4, I think? Haha.

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Good to see stackers rally to the cause

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Doing God's work, brother 🙏

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Great news.

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