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Yea the NAP doesn't mean lying down and dying like many fake libertarians would like
Just as you shouldn't bring a knife to a gun fight, you can't bring conscientious objection to the fight when the communists are actively using the state to kill you. You must become the state as a matter of self-defense. We can't just wish the state away, the state is and will always be...
but...
"The state" is ephemeral because it can be divided against itself. Every state has a shadow-state or rival state lying in wait. This is the closest thing to market dynamics we can get in a natural monopoly that there is always an apex force ... by acknowledging the constraint dilemma, we can apply market principles in that context... that's called politics."
So voting in self-defense isn't a violation of the NAP? LOL
One must realize the amount of weaponized autism in the liberty movement is off the charts. Realizing this makes everything easier. I may resemble this remark.
I've never felt that one has to be a "pure" libertarian/anarchist.
Personally, one of my core values is that if I don't like something I have some influence over either try and do something about it or try to insulate myself from it. It is much easier to LARP. I had an awakening in 2020-21 realizing I was largely LARPing. Since then I've become involved and less in my own little world. I have to tolerate a lot of nonsense to work towards something better. I think its really just growing up.
We liberty people will complain about things we can't change and ignore things we can. If we really believe all this stuff but don't have enough food to make it weak are we just LARPing? Yes. We are. If we think the state/police is evil but don't have methods to protect our property and families are we LARPing? Yes. If we don't build community outside of government how will we survive if the state falls? We won't.
So do we really want freedom? If it magically appeared tomorrow would we be ready? For me, the answer used to be no. I've been moving further away from that side ever since. It takes time. Bitcoin is real part of this for me and really one of the biggest reasons for hope. But its not magic. Software needs to be maintained. People need to use it. People need to someone to teach them. I've picked my niche and I educate those that want to learn around me.
That's what it looks like to me. I'm also a believer in Jesus. A Christian and ultimately I believe He is above all this but that doesn't excuse me from caring. But my faith is not in these men in power. But I know they can be better or worse. None of them are perfect.
Covid proved to me that you should absolutely really care about your local elections.
Luckily, in my part of TX, our sheriff was against all of the covid nonsense and basically published a letter and sent it to most businesses that read: "If you want to kick someone out of your business its your property you are free to, but I won't be sending any of my deputies to help enforce mask mandates, vaccine card checks, curfews, etc. as none of that is backed by any state law and most would violate the constitution."
The feds / state / city can write whatever laws they want, but ultimately they require your local sheriff to enforce it.
Yep, and the sheriff is a county thing... so how do you influence the sheriff election? By having a shadow government in your town. Towns/Counties influence states, states influence the nation.
It'd be wildly impractical to run for governor for example on day 1 of deciding to begin operations. A governor needs people around them, state police etc. So where do you start? A group in your town that takes over the town council or whatever form it has.
Can't get a plurality on a town council in one election either, need to build community organizations so you get people and aligned and know you, and discover people for other positions. Just to keep a town government in check you need to build your own townie deep state.
Activism needs to be planned over decades, not issue by issue or headline by headline.
It (Covid) proved to me that local matters more and ignored the most far beyond elections even. Local community groups, churches, schools, and all the stuff that you live around you have a far easier time pushing the needle on.
You have to be there and work to earn respect too. IF you just jump in telling everyone what is wrong and how it should be done without ever being involved before you will get ignored. You may get ignored anyway but I get it when loud mouths just start jumping in when they have no skin in the game.
I mean, honestly it starts in your own family, then your neighbors, then your town/neighborhood. I live in an unincorporated area so we have no local government. The community orgs do most of the work and the rest is on the county.
Having a good Sheriff is huge. We had one that refused to enforce the state(California) nonsense during Covid. They are elected to this position. Most people in your communities are practical and care about stuff that impacts them personally. They have no clue that there is anything other than the blue/red teams. Usually that dynamic is not helpful locally.
This stuff is messy. Working with people. People are hard to work with. Much easier to LARP on the Internet about some ideal state of society where bitcoin is supreme and there is not state. But that's a dream long in the future and how do we get there if we all are passive, lazy, uninterested people.
So voting in self-defense isn't a violation of the NAP? LOL
Correct. If you get shot at, shooting back in defense is not aggression.
I've never felt that one has to be a "pure" libertarian/anarchist.
The only point to libertarian/anarchist labels is a purity test. I am an still consider myself a Libertarian/AnCap, but I'm also a realist, and self-described Libertarian/AnCaps are at this point Communist collaborators.
complain about things we can't change and ignore things we can
When you really think about what you can change its overwhelming to execute. I've been weighing for months creating a shadow government in my town, because the town government is out of control. The execution required even at that small level is dizzying to plan.
It's only with a shadow government can you constrain the seated government.
He is above all this but that doesn't excuse me from caring.
He gave you agency to put to use. The abdication of Libertarians/AnCaps is anti-Christian, thats why so many atheists run in those circles.
The books tell us he will install a righteous leader, only if we deserve it, and abdication is not deserving.
I don't think most people realize that the world was changing before Trump entered the chat. Trump is not the change agent but rather rose due largely due to the discontent with the status quo. The post WW2 consensus around globalization and democracy is crumbling before our eyes. Nationalism isn't Nazism. We have failed to learn the lessons of the past. People are tribal and what we are seeing now is people that have group identity just fed up with being lied to and ignored by those that claim to represent them.
The whole globalist ideological international relations world order was an illusion. It was always about power. Real power is returning. National identity is making a comeback. The illusion could not state forever. The image of evil (Hitler) has run out of power as people age out. The weaponization of the liberal world order is getting weaker and weaker.
I have my ideals but I also have eyes. I can see what is happening. Trump has been riding this wave. I have no illusions that he's likely a very evil man. I just don't have the illusion that he is uniquely evil. Also, it would not matter if he was. This system so many people believe in so dearly allowed him to take power and the same democratic system pushed him into this position.
I can't cry with all of the TDS people. People like us have been warning about this for decades and no one listened. Dr. Paul warned them. They mocked him. So... this is what you get. You don't care about state rights when the globalists are in power? ICE in your state now. You aren't anti-war when Obama has the reins of power? Trump is gonna use that power too. You made this bed. You get to sleep in it with all of us.
Maybe if the world order which has resulted in a man like Trump taking power (through the system) proves how broken this precious system actually is. Many moderates are good decent people. They are just under the spell. Its just annoying to hear them cry about all this stuff after years of mocking my warnings.
What are you gonna do? Gripe on SN I guess.
I don't think most people realize that the world was changing before Trump entered the chat.
I don't think people realize how far back these battles go period. These are the same undercurrents of the revolution, 1812, ww1, ww2... and everything since. The names and faces change, but it's still the same polarities.
It just comes to a head at certain points. Warsh used the term regime change, Chatham house called it a revolution.
he's likely a very evil man
There's zero basis in that, that's just your bias towards government in general. Like anti-gun people thinking every gun owner is evil.
He was already rich, famous, and old. Evil people use puppets and stay out of the light... and the media drama is because he's not a puppet in a stuffed suit, some nobody bureaucrat.
system so many people believe in so dearly allowed him to take power
That's the gun in the room, whether you like it or not someone will pick it up. It's either us, or the Bolsheviks. The worst people are the moderates, the Kerensky's, its that abdication that lets the Bolsheviks take power.
I don't really understand the TDS situation that much. Its somehow beyond just normal Red/Blue team dynamics.
It really reminds me of the Covid situation, how suddenly at the flip of a switch normal people started suddenly calling for vaccine checkpoints and publicly hoping all anti-vaxxers would die (because they didn't want to take an untested vaccine for the flu).
There is some type of voodoo mind-control thing going on.
To be clear, I'm not talking about someone who says: "I don't like Trump". I'm talking about the flip-switch people who attribute every possible evil to Trump. They simultaneously paint him as being diabolically subversive and a complete moron. Each of his actions will cause them to vacillate between those explanations multiple times in a single conversation. Everyone hates him and he's going to lose everything and also a whole nation of brown-shirt gestapo is going to blindly follow him and will put them all in camps.
Its really unhinged.
voodoo mind-control thing going on
Psychological Operations of military grade. That's in large part why all this has to be scripted.
The history of psychological warfare and intelligence agencies is a required rabbit hole to understanding how the world actually works. Nothing is organic.
Yes. I often speak of the perfect because I'm a firm believer in education for those that want to learn. But personally I'm a very big pragmatist. There is the ideal, and there is reality. Its why I won't jump onboard with the TDS some people seem obsessed with. These people seem to think that the pre-Trump world was just great. They are clueless about the effects on at least 1/3 of the US. That the political class not only ignored these people but really despise them. But the problem is many orange man enjoyers are naive statist.
I have no faith in Democracy, Globalism, or the state. That said, we are generations away from having the human knowledge of the issues and critical mass required to have what most libertarians and anarcho-capitalists propose.
Bottom line, I know that the globalist, centrists, liberals, and progressives will not stand up to the state when it wants to line up people like us up against a wall. Our chances are far better with the right. What matters for me most is personal relationships and most of the people I know well and trust are not on the left. While they don't see things like I do, they are much closer to my world view.