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The covers, while all the same covers and very AI-y, look amazing.

Also, perfect example of infinite generation and how (fiction) reading is largely pointless, (#1571294, #1550071), supply outstripping not demand narrowly but ALL AVAILABLE ATTENTION (=way worse)

Update: Can you vouch that these are real books, written/crafted/well-thought out and not just AI slob spun up over a weekend?

123 sats \ 8 replies \ @k00b 21 Oct

All of the books were published within a year of each other. That plus the website copy and art being AI - it's safe bet they're machine generated fiction.

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Interesting. I have had very human sounding interactions with the author over the past six months or so. He sent me a single epub link a while ago. That proves nothing. I am going to attempt to get him to speak for himself in response to these questions.

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140 sats \ 5 replies \ @k00b 21 Oct

I could be wrong. They could use AI to do everything but write the books, but IME once someone starts serving slop they have a hard time stopping.

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We should know soon enough.

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we appreciate the investigative effort, Siggy pal!

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I'm now reviewing our messages. We had a long back and forth. I think he contacted @TotallyHumanWriter about publishing at 21 Futures. If he is discovered to be a bot, I will just have to face the fact that I can't trust my own opinions.

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I have the same feeling. I haven't looked at any of these stories yet, but I'm finding that sometimes I want to believe in people's fiction so badly that I'm not seeing the signs that it's generated. And then later I just feel like crap that I wasted time reading it.

I think it is probably a matter of expectations: I suspect that we don't want to be elitist or demand too much from writers (especially bitcoin writers) lest we not read anything. We'd like to encourage people along because maybe they will eventually hone themselves into good writers and we'll get to enjoy all their stories. It's not like everyone can be a Steinbeck or a Heller. We extend a lot of patience and grace to new writers, but slop makes this sort of attitude too easy to game.

The problem is that this is leading us to accept stories that really aren't that good (largely because no human struggled over them). If a bot writes a story that really is good, I think I probably won't mind reading it.

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and Phil will sniff it out!

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"within a year" is still pretty reasonable... professional fiction authors pump out 3-5 books a year. Basically, because it's all just the same template/pattern of nonsense drivel repeated ad nauseum. They were the original infinite-generation AIs, spinning out endless amount of pointless text.

A more obvious AI-slop warning would be if they all came out within a week/month of each other

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I just replied to @k00b, and I invited the guy to defend himself. Beyond that,

supply outstripping not demand narrowly but ALL AVAILABLE ATTENTION (=way worse)

This is so true 😀

You read and liked Lyn's, but she has a track record and you know her. I wonder whether a real gem would go unnoticed in a sea of crap?

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You read and liked Lyn's, but she has a track record and you know her. I wonder whether a real gem would go unnoticed in a sea of crap?

absolutely. But the only reason I would ever engage in the first place is because I know and trust her; was curious to see if her skills translated to another domain.

The same is not true with this guy, so no matter how good any of the books are (objectively speaking; let's pretend we can assess that), I won't read them.

(Though, if a gem falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it...?)

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