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Holy shit! They're here. I think this may be my most downzapped post ever.

Hey @Scoresby, check it out. I'm doubling down on this! -----> #1595097

Just kidding. I'm not that conspiracy theoryish. I do still hope to make that follow up post soon though.

It certainly won't do to have this post anywhere but the top. Have some sats.

I saw your comment but I haven't had time to think it through because of TabConf. It's on my todo list for this weekend. I eagerly await follow up post.

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Woah! Dunno if you went into Zeus mode yourself or just inspired somebody else, but...uh...wow...thank you!

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189 sats \ 1 reply \ @Scoresby 16 Oct

It's a cool post! Definitely the kind of thing I enjoy reading, and it's inspiring: I keep meaning to get to tinkering, but life gets in the way. These kind of stories remind me to not give up on my tinkering dreams.

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If you work at it hard enough, you too can drive your family into poverty and be chased by pirates through a fever dream of a movie.

Seriously, thanks man!

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I'm just going to ask this the direct way, but it's not meant offensively... just, what you say doesn't compute. If you're doubling down on bitcoin-only, why are you sharing a video from a literal shitcoiner? And not just some doggy coin retard, but someone that literally claims their shitcoin is the real bitcoin.

Please give me some good reasons why I should listen to Mechanic and maybe I'll transcribe the video into an article, let an LLM rip it apart and read the executive summary. But without good reasons, why would I even bother to copy the url into a console window?

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Not offended, but thanks for clarifying. I feel like I've got a good read on your intentions, or at least as well as one can guess through cyberspace, and I'm not offended if you think I'm a dumb-dumb, mostly because I already know that's true.

I wasn't doubling down on sharing the Mechanic video. I think the way the fork played out demonstrated that his thesis about restricting data in the manner he hoped to wasn't embraced by either miners or most node runners.

What I was doubling down on was that last comment to Scoresby that I shared. I initially shared the Mechanic video because I think he was dead on about that particular point. And it's something I've been saying since long before he started making a stink about v30 and alienating people. I've got receipts right here on stacker news. No one has yet been able to convince me that miner centralization isn't a huge issue, despite the fact that I'm totally all ears for it. Even though I'm just a plebian and still have to work in an industry that seems to have no intention of transitioning to a bitcoin standard, I'm convinced that most bitcoiners are terrifyingly naive about this. It's why I'm kind of nutty about home mining, and it's what I was insinuating is the reason why somebody downzapped this post about defiant home mining (although I'll admit that's purely speculation since nobody's really claimed it).

hmmm, that got a little convoluted, but I gotta run. I'll try to clarify later. In summary, no need to watch the video. Mining centralization bad.

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I think it's good that you're nutty about home mining so I'm not going to push back too hard on details. Just realize that we don't really know how bad it is, also because we don't have a clear insight into all secondary binding factors, like how many of those commercial assets are financed and under what terms. Pool centralization is the most visible, but not the most impactful metric, because pools can be switched out of rather painlessly. But the solution is the same. More home mining. Doesn't matter at which scale for now, and hopefully it won't ever matter, but there's a chance that it will at some point, and then we better have 50% of the miners building their own templates if we want continuity.

I think though that listening to indoctrination attempts by Mechanic is kind of purposely gaslighting yourself. It does not matter what he says or how right it sounds. They attacked bitcoin, and they failed. I feel a very strong need to move on from their malice and actually fix things. Not with a coup, but with real solutions. That get actual buy in. With solutions that aren't divisive.

Because from where I am sitting, what they did, including some of the people still at Ocean despite their bullshitting attempts now claiming that they never believed in it, has harmed the cause we're both behind (a truly decentralized bitcoin) more than it has helped. It has destroyed credibility. It has turned Bitcoin into a clown show and I'd really like to move on. Away with the wannabe authoritarian failures. You cannot top-down force decentralization; you have to incentivize it, and do it yourself.

So I like this post a lot more than the other one.

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