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55 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 13 Sep \ parent \ on: [SELL] Cowboy Credits (CC) at 0.745 sats/cc gross — 50/50 reward pool, P2P AGORA

The post to boost, within ~AGORA, is something cool. I think it's circumvent and complicated, but you do have a point there. A very small one, but a point nevertheless.

I do think that the benefits you explain are really, really small, especially since trading CCs P2P outside of liquidation probably means someone was buying those CCs.

What else you think we could do to incentivize stackers to openly trade P2P?

I'll approach this from my personal situation, i.e. what is prohibiting me to list my buy and sell orders for physical goods or even digital things on ~AGORA:

  1. The anon <-> reputation conflict. It's extremely hard to do private things if there is an expectation of reputation. However, modern(-ish) surveillance tech requires us to be extremely careful with our digital footprint. Building a reputation in a shadow market while erasing tracks is really, really hard[1]
  2. For physical goods: the worst problem here is that there is no working solution for anonymous goods delivery. There is always a trail. And again, it's not just the subpoena threat that's an issue; the breach and insider threats are huge too.

So the problems for me are: having to post as anon and thus having no reputation - meaning you always have to offer at a discount or buy at premium, and for the buy side specifically, having no means of delivery.

If we can solve both these issues then we make agoric trading great. If we cannot, then the risk will not outweigh the rewards.

  1. Just imagine having traded with a Revolut user on robosats or lnp2pbot or mostro. It's not just the bossman that we have to worry about. Breaches are by far the larger problem. Even if you weren't using revolut but your counterparty was, your trading pattern is now in the hands of... every asshole that knows how to open an onion site. ↩

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129 sats \ 0 replies \ @AG OP 13 Sep
The post to boost, within ~AGORA, is something cool. I think it's circumvent and complicated, but you do have a point there. A very small one, but a point nevertheless.

I do think that the benefits you explain are really, really small, especially since trading CCs P2P outside of liquidation probably means someone was buying those CCs.

I'm happy you can see some value on my offer :)

I'll continue the new topics about anon <-> reputation conflict and physical delivery in separate posts as your feedback sharpens the whole thing I've been researching foer a while now.

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