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You already conceded this discussion is about lightning, remember? #1569856

I misread the tweet, so you are right that it's about lightning.

My scam warning is focused exclusively on lightning's technical details, are there any corrections I should make to my post?

Your scam warning is not exclusively about lightning. If it was, you wouldn't have made the extra leap to accusing Justin of stealing people's money.

Here is the correction you can make:

  • make the post about how lightning works and how Justin is not correct about that.
  • remove the unfounded accusation about draining wallets.
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442 sats \ 8 replies \ @Kruw 13 Sep

The accusation of draining wallets isn't "unfounded". You already conceded that innocent users who listen to Justin will lose their money, remember? #1569234

I am happy to explicitly acknowledge that keeping your lightning wallet online is important to prevent it from getting drained.

Justin refused to delete his post, confirming he is a scammer: #1570002

It's sad that you didn't even care enough about the innocent users getting their funds drained to ask Justin if he would delete his misinformation. It's even sadder this site's leadership spent >$1,000 to cover up Justin's scamming.

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Dude, you know me. Downzapping your accusation is not covering scamming up. This is the most bonkers interaction I've ever had on SN.

Making accusations about stealing needs to have a WAY higher bar than you are using.

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101 sats \ 6 replies \ @Kruw 13 Sep

"Scamming" is the most generous interpretation of his actions, remember? #1566778

If he's causing people to lose their coins and profiting from it, that's bad.

If he's causing people to lose their coins and NOT profiting from it, that's even WORSE (since he can't refund their losses with his profits).

The more appropriate term for destroying user funds without profiting from it would be "terrorist", so calling him a "scammer" is me being nice to him.

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I don't agree at all. You have not presented anywhere close to sufficient evidence to support either claim.

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Why don't Justin's own words count as sufficient evidence?

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Because when I read those words I do not get that he is draining someone's wallet.

Whati read is you and him arguing about Ark and then Justin making a statement about Lightning as a part of that argument.

It reads to me like an argument, not theft. The burden is on the accuser (you) to prove the claim that he is actually trying to drain people's wallets. And you certainly haven't convinced me.

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And you certainly haven't convinced me.

Wrong, I already convinced you that funds can be drained from sleeping lightning wallets: #1569234

I am happy to explicitly acknowledge that keeping your lightning wallet online is important to prevent it from getting drained.