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I remember he said he flew a lot of private planes with his boss/company. Maybe they were bitcoin adjacent or in finance?

Certainly a different crowd from the riffraff I sit next to

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Wonder where he went off to. I remember he got mad at my ~Animal_World x ~bitcoin_beginners x ~Politics_And_Law x ~BooksAndArticles crosspost and said something about taking a break from SN. Hope my post didn't offend a good stacker to the point of not coming back.

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78 sats \ 23 replies \ @ek 11 Sep

His last comment was “Wtf is wrong with you” to @denlillaapan, so I think you don’t need to worry too much

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his second last comment was a response to my post though... so i think it's related

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Well, both of you need to have a good hard think about what you've done then.

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Take a look at the comment: #1421509

Just being my usual asshole economist self. We truly can't help it.

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233 sats \ 8 replies \ @ek 11 Sep

I had a similar visceral reaction in #1532680 to something @optimism wrote.

I blamed the medium there, and I would blame the medium here. I don’t think that’s (only) me excusing my behaviour. I think our communication channels shape how we communicate.

For example, I would love to talk about this a lot more, but it’s kind of annoying to type, you know?

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I don't think it's just the medium. It's a known issue with economists, that people sometimes have a visceral negative reaction to how we talk. Since we analyze human behavior and economic efficiency from a morally neutral lens, it often comes off as cold, amoral, and uncaring to a lot of people, and they assume that economists have no values other than economic efficiency. It's also reinforced by some talking heads on TV who emphasize economic growth above all else (see #1567808).

What I want people to understand is that being able to talk about things in a morally neutral way doesn't mean you don't have a moral opinion. And making a morally neutral argument doesn't mean I don't take moral arguments seriously.

I will stand my ground and insist that you must understand the morally neutral arguments first before you should begin to discuss the moral arguments, though. Moral arguments have to be grounded in how people will actually act, not just how you wish they'd act.

It's a bummer when conversations go sideways like that.

I try to remind myself to ask more questions when that's happening, to limit the number of false assumptions I might be reading in.

Just being my usual asshole economist self. We truly can't help it.

I feel yah. We're incurable bitches

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*We're incredible, bitches!

AMAZING! I don't remember this...

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238 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 11 Sep

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I was merely making an economic efficiency rationale for animal welfare. You were wishing death upon the boomers!

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Aaah, seems reasonable. On point

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I believe he was making an economic efficiency argument about the optimal mortality rate of boomers.

I see little difference.

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They diff types of animals, i guess