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Yep, Ark is the Lightning "Channel Factory" that engineers have been fantasizing about for a decade.

...and @DarthCoin / @justin_shocknet still spit in the face of this marvel scaling solution. It must suck to hold such bitterness against the grand winners.

Lightning is not obsolete though: https://x.com/Kruwed/status/2084739814826316113

Nah they do more than spit they absolute pull down their pants and shit on them and rightfully so. Have you seen the fees Ark charges just to hold your own money? It makes no sense as to why the fee is variable. Plus Ark’s “scaling solution” requires a 3rd party! and we all know trusted third parties are security holes.

They are just trying to warn folks of the tradeoffs and stop this nonsense as it is a scaling solution for Bitcoin.

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1422 sats \ 0 replies \ @Kruw 20 Aug
Have you seen the fees Ark charges just to hold your own money?

I've used both Ark implementations and they didn't charge me anything to refresh during the final 3 days of my VTXO expiry.

and we all know trusted third parties are security holes.

Ark providers aren't trusted with security.

They are just trying to warn folks of the tradeoffs and stop this nonsense as it is a scaling solution for Bitcoin.

Can you cite an example of them carefully explaining Ark's tradeoffs? I've only seen them assert that Ark is a scam without any proof whatsoever.

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Who said lightning is obsolete?

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You raise good points here:

  • Lightning has a channel delta that each peer sets, and a 1 tx enforcement to execute the cheater
  • Ark has a forwarding timeout that the operator sets, and a n tx tree enforcement to claim funds before the cheater
  • Spark has decrementing timelocks, and no protection against a cheating operator
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602 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 19 Aug -1530 sats

Scammer retard likes Ark, big surprise

Also doesn't scale shit, learn: #1275977