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Happy Tuesday. The bears showed up and had a little nibble on the market. Early signs they will be back today!

But will they remain?
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Question:

I am amazed how Ford is still alive. The balance sheet is terrible and it would take 22 years of their current free cash flow to pay off its debt.

Drop tickers below that are in a similar situation.

Highly in debt but free cash flow positive but will take longer than 10 years of payments to clear their debt. Those who do this and guess the close correctly will be zapped 500 sats

Bears Win (πŸŸ₯)

Let’s see these over leveraged stocks!!

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674 sats \ 1 reply \ @brave 11 Aug

πŸŸ₯ $PFE (Pfizer)

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Good one!

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597 sats \ 1 reply \ @lunanto 11 Aug

πŸŸ₯ $CHTR (Charter Communications)

Runs a classic high-leverage model: massive debt built up over years of stock buybacks and network builds.

Highly cash-flow positive, but total debt is over $90B - way past 10 years of current FCF to pay off in full.

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good one!!!

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πŸŸ₯ AAL American Airlines

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Yikes! this company is dead ☠️ with debt

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538 sats \ 1 reply \ @Tef 11 Aug

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WBD β€” Warner Bros. Discovery
This is one of the more extreme situations. Its TTM FCF was about $2.31B as of March 2026, while gross debt has been around the $30B+ range, putting the simple debt/FCF calculation well above 10 years.

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Good one!!

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511 sats \ 0 replies \ @Taft 11 Aug

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F (Ford)

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294 sats \ 1 reply \ @joyfam 11 Aug

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$BA (Boeing)
High debt stack, massive ongoing capital intensity, and regulatory bottlenecks. While they remain FCF positive in operational quarters, paying off their total debt load strictly out of annual free cash flow would take significantly longer than 10 years.

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no free cash flow!!

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BA (Boeing)

** BA**
Solid cash flow, but massive long-term debt from past crises means it will take well over a decade to clear.
Closing guess: , 2036.
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$GM (General Motors)

Same story as Ford. Massive automotive financing arm ($GM Financial) inflating total debt figures, combined with heavy EV and autonomous vehicle R&D spending. High debt load relative to standard FCF, but sustained by rolling over debt in credit markets

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151 sats \ 0 replies \ @Oxy 11 Aug

πŸŸ₯ $WBD (Warner Bros. Discovery)

Straddled with over $40B in debt following the Discovery/WarnerMedia merger.

They generate respectable free cash flow from legacy cable and streaming, but deleveraging is a multi-decade marathon at their current cash generation rate.

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145 sats \ 0 replies \ @fred 11 Aug

πŸŸ₯ $CHTR (Charter Communications)

Runs a classic high-leverage model: massive debt built up over years of stock buybacks and network builds. Highly cash-flow positive, but total debt is over $90B way past 10 years of current FCF to pay off in full.

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145 sats \ 1 reply \ @Entrep 11 Aug

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$CCL (Carnival Corporation)
Took on immense debt loads to survive 2020–2021. They’re back to generating solid operating cash flow and positive FCF, but with ~$30B in debt, it will take them well over a decade of steady FCF to completely clear the balance sheet.

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7.75 years of FCF to pay off its debt

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VZ

massive telecom cash, yet buried in infrastructure debt that'll take a decade or more to clear.
2037-12-31
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VZ β€” Verizon
Probably the cleanest large-cap example. Verizon had $136.5B of unsecured debt at the end of Q2 2026 and generated $10.2B of FCF in just the first half of 2026.

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8.3 years of FCF to pay its debt. Crazy they earn $20B in FCF

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TICKER: GM
General Motors fits this perfectly. Solid positive free cash flow, but with their massive debt load and capital-intensive EV transition, it would easily take well over a decade to clear the books.
Closing guess: Dec , 2038. Let's see if the balance sheet finally cracks!

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9 years of FCF to pay off debt!

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GM - General Motors

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9 years of FCF to pay off Debt nice try

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$DIS (Walt Disney Co.)

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about 5 years of FCF to pay off its debt

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