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Google Antigravity is their Cursor knock-off and you can get a fair amount done with the free tier, if you hit limits its like a week or 10 days till it resets.

Haven't played with Google AI Studio but I understand it to be a lighter more prototype focused version for the browser.

Kiro had a decent free tier last I tried it but that was awhile ago, it was good for planning which make your build tokens go further, could make the plan there and move it to something else to execute.

Replit was actually the only thing I've ever paid to try and wanted my money back, thought it terrible, couldn't understand the hype.

Any editor that lets you bring your own key is a great no-KYC/email option combined with PPQ.ai - just pay sats for tokens. Cursor sucks at BYOK so I need to try Zed next.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm playing around with @optimism's suggestion now (#1522534).

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Any editor that lets you bring your own key is a great no-KYC/email option combined with PPQ.ai - just pay sats for tokens. Cursor sucks at BYOK so I need to try Zed next.

I'm mostly using PPQ through codex (with --oss arg) right now, but it is not always without issues. Another option that works well (but you'll have to write detailed coding instructions yourself) is pi-agent.

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How much are you spending through PPQ?

I have Cursor Pro and GPT Plus (use codex-auth through a few things which gives me like $1000 worth of GPT tokens for $20) so my $5 on PPQ have mostly just sat there... and I just rigged up some release automation with Cursor CLI yesterday that I thought I would need PPQ for.

Gonna try some voicebox stuff soon to burn the PPQ credit, that seems to be its value to me, accessing pretty much any model my subs don't already have.

Started looking at building on Pi a little, but on the backburner... I ultimately want people to be able to use the full shocknet stack through a chatbot... point telegram bot or whatever at your node... take a picture, it uploads to lightning video cdn, creates an clink noffer for the product on pub with clink nmanage, publishes a product to nostr web shop, tracks sales via shockwallet rpc... full agentic decentralized commerce.

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How much are you spending through PPQ?

With just GLM-5.2 (regular, not the expensive "fast" one) on my production work, I mostly spend a bit under $1 for each hour it is plowing away at things, single-threaded because I can't review that fast anyway.

Currently it's been on the lower end - about $2 a day - because I'm hitting some bugs in codex and reading logs through sqlite is a nasty chore, so I switch between pi+ppq and claude to compensate and get shit done at the moment (though since I downgraded Claude to the $20 sub, it basically means 3 prompts and its done for the next 5h, lol.)

Started looking at building on Pi a little, but on the backburner... I ultimately want people to be able to use the full shocknet stack through a chatbot...

Just publish an llms.txt on your domain and describe everything in markdown. Like a remote skill file. That should work for most implementations

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Been loving GLM 5.2, finally works right in Cursor... haven't used it directly as an API yet though but I suspect that'll be more expensive than through Cursor Pro allotment.

Grok 4.5 being 50% off in Cursor right now derailed using it a bit this week, it feels like what I expect Composer 3 should be... cheap, relatively fast, and good enough.

Just publish an llms.txt on your domain

Experimenting with this for nodestr, will hit you up to try it... on-demand VPS.

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I don't really run any "agents" like that live at the moment but always willing to docker-compose up to test something.

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