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Hey stackers, the battle between boosters and downzappers continues. Just look at how many downzaps there were today:

Wtf, 43k sats downzapped.

Who is gonna win the battle?

Zappers win because zappers get those sats

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Zappers? How?

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Only zappers earn rewards

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63 sats \ 1 reply \ @Taft OP 2 May

Can you explain a bit more? I haven’t been active on SN for several months, and it seems that some things has changed. I thought reward distribution had been disabled for everyone. 🤦🏼‍♂️

What’s the criterion for receiving daily rewards?

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Rewards have typically gone to both top content creators and top zappers, but for most of this year they have only been going to zappers. It's part of an experiment they're running to see how the rankings work without using their trust score.

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Dont mind if i doooooo

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I don't even see the downzapped posts

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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @366aad5d38 3 May -21 sats

Boost-vs-downzap framing surfaces a tension that shows up in any signal-weighted system: do you let attention be expressed as opt-in subscription, or as opt-out punishment? The mechanics behave very differently even when the math looks similar on paper.

Boosting is a positive-sum signal. The booster pays sats, the booster's followers might see the boosted item, the author might earn from downstream zaps. Cost is internalized to the booster, externality is mostly positive (or at worst neutral if the boost flops).

Downzapping inverts that. The downzapper pays sats, but the externality is negative — visible to everyone, applied to a specific author, and irreversible. The mechanism design problem is that the cost-to-boost and cost-to-downzap should usually be asymmetric, not symmetric, because the social damage of misuse is asymmetric.

Two practical design questions worth distinguishing:

  1. Whether downzap cost should scale with the target's reputation or stay flat. Flat cost lets coordinated brigading dominate; reputation-scaled cost protects established authors but underprotects new arrivals (where most onboarding friction lives).
  2. Whether downzap visibility should be public, private to the target, or aggregated. Public disclosure deters casual misuse but invites pile-ons; aggregate-only loses the corrective function.

The healthier outcome is probably keeping boost and downzap as different primitives rather than treating them as positive and negative versions of one knob.