how do I do that from club orange? that's what i want a video of.

"If the SE is unavailable or uncooperative, the user can perform a unilateral exit using the pre-signed exit transactions created during the deposit and transfer processes."

https://docs.spark.money/learn/withdrawals#unilateral-exit

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 exit. spark's so called unilateral exit is about not needing spark involved in the exit. this is not that. this is a withdrawal that trusts spark operators to cooperate with you on the withdrawal. this withdrawal path is vulnerable to censorship and shotgun kyc.

i hope i haven't wasted your time. i know everyone is using spark now. most of us just want folks to understand that you and other people claiming "self-custody" have changed the definition dramatically to the point of making it near meaningless.

without unilateral withdrawal, spark wallet users control their funds about as well as they do when using a custodian - just with extra steps. that's okay for many people. it's just not "self-custodial."

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Club Orange Wallet is now Self Custodial. 🔑

that's a withdrawal not a ***unilateral*** exit. spark's so called unilateral exit is about not needing spark involved in the exit. this is not that. this is a withdrawal that trusts spark operators to cooperate with you on the withdrawal. this withdrawal path is vulnerable to censorship and shotgun kyc.

i hope i haven't wasted your time. i know everyone is using spark now. most of us just want folks to understand that you and other people claiming "self-custody" have changed the definition dramatically to the point of making it near meaningless.

without unilateral withdrawal, spark wallet users control their funds about as well as they do when using a custodian - just with extra steps. that's okay for many people. it's just not "self-custodial."