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FYI for those who need help attaching a spending wallet (which will also make @Solomonsatoshi very happy because you will be using Bitcoin P2P as intended)...I used Coinos, and it was super easy. Took about 2 minutes to set up [https://www.coinos.io/]

Directions:

Just go to "wallets" in the SN settings. Click Coinos and past the NWC secret that you'll copy from Coinos. Set a budget, since this is technically a hot wallet connected to the internet so you should not risk too many sats just in case!

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Why are you shilling a bank?

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Coinos is not a bank but a great platform for onboarding newbies

The founder Adam is a great advocate for bitcoin and lightning and liquid and mints/cashu and nostr

@coinos
@adam_coinos_io
@coinoswallet

@asoltys2026

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15 sats \ 3 replies \ @optimism 1h

The reason why I disagree with this is because there are "graduating" wallets out there now that do work. Zeus does this, though it's a bit unstable for me on AOSP with high security settings, and shockwallet does it, which I am testing now (I'm testing the full graduation path, no shortcuts, so I'll have a ton of findings.)

Personally, I'd never recommend coinos' type of custody for anyone, because:

  1. You're not only bound to the honor of the guy that owns your sats, you're bound to their ability to secure it and their ability to resist coercion. Warren 2028 or 2032? Y'all get rekt. It grows to a point where there are real sats to be taken? It'll crumble under scrutiny of a real cybercrime network. Tick, tock.
  2. I don't think Adam is a bad guy; I think he is on a great learning curve and means well. But the downtime, the hacks and the operational fuckups do not make this something I can recommend to someone and have a clear conscience. You get convenience until you don't.
  3. If you need a bank, get a real bank, not one that tries to hide the fact that they're a bank. The cringe shit here is that it's all narrated. Someone pasting me a screenshot of a chatbot summarizing the marketing website as evidence. That's the saddest form of cognitive poverty I have ever seen in my life.

Last point, Bitcoin was envisioned to not need custody. If a solution only works with custody, it is a bad solution. We shouldn't be afraid of L1, we shouldn't be afraid to work on non-custodial LN. Luckily, smart people like Evan and Justin work on this. Without much hype and from an underdog position.

In the end what matters is: does your solution give you a chance to rug me? And how do you protect me against that. How do you inform me? How do you teach me to not trust-me-bro.

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Forgive me if I'm not understanding, but it doesn't look like Zeus can send sats on SN. It isn't a spending wallet here, and it can just receive, no? With Coinos (and only a few other options), you can simply receive AND send on SN. And it's super easy to set up...took me 2 minutes. Good luck setting up Zeus or something else in 2 minutes...

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15 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 1h

You're not understanding because you're not reading, you just want to be right about something you have given zero thought to and you're literally parroting a known troll.

I addressed your "2 minutes" [1] above:

You get convenience until you don't.

By all means, ignore everything I say. Don't read. Just keep on pasting screenshots.

You wanna be right? "You're right". And because you're now right, I'm going to personally hold you responsible for the future losses of everyone you tricked into using this shit. And why did you do this? Because you want to be right. lmao.

  1. fwiw you can set up shockwallet in 2 minutes and I guess about 2 hours with your own lnd, reasonably secured too. Zeus means you need to enable NWC, but it can still work (but like I said, it's unstable for me) ↩

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I missed that initially. Thanks. And I'm a big fan of Shockwallet. I'll be migrating there soon for my SN needs @justin_shocknet :)

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yeah thanks for the info. I don't understand all the FUD around coinos...

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oh no. I can't do anything right these days I guess. Can't make everyone happy! Have a great day @optimism !

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Unlike some people here, you don't have to please me. I just ask why you're shilling it. But I guess you answered: you do it to please someone.

Do you realize who you're pleasing?

Have a great day yourself!

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I'm not shilling a bank. I'm giving a tutorial for people who want to set up a spending wallet. I had no idea who coinos was until I recently looked in the SN wallet settings and saw they were an option. And you still haven't explained your question. How are they a bank? What's wrong with "shilling" them? Maybe you have some bad experience you'd like to share with us?

And the only one I seek to please is our Heavenly Father, Lord Jesus Christ. Thank you for the reminder. ~Christianity

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32 sats \ 4 replies \ @Taj 13h

The guy who runs CoinOS is called Adam and he's on here

He's unfortunately had some unbelievably bad luck

CoinOS has been compromised multiple times, all documented on here and Nostr

Would be worth doing due diligence on the search function

Lifpay is also a suggestion on the wallet section here but they sunsetted their operation years ago

When Optimism talks, it's probably worth listening 👂

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ohh ok I'll take a look. thanks. I think Stacker news should update their wallets list, and maybe include a light description of each wallet to give the user at least some sense of security in their decision making process. @k00b

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4 sats \ 2 replies \ @Taj 4h

Fixed it

I think Stackers should research the wallets list, and maybe learn a bit about each wallet to give themselves at least some sense of security in their decision making process @k00b

After all we are sovereign individuals right? Can't expect k00b to do everything for us

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@optimism you there? We're eager to learn bro!

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394 sats \ 0 replies \ @NEEDcreations OP 18h -419 sats

IDK bro I'll leave it up to you to explain your condescending question

https://m.stacker.news/136778

I kinda wanna bring back the gun and horse badges.

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82 sats \ 9 replies \ @optimism 17h

I wanna bring back SimpleStacker-the-accidental-resistance-leader 😂

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Wasn't there a movie about a guy who ran for president as a joke and got elected?

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82 sats \ 6 replies \ @optimism 16h

The best leaders are the reluctant ones that do it out of honor!!! (I wish I wasn't kidding)

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reluctant leaders who do it out of honor are probably good

eager ones who do it out of ideology are probably worst

I'd rather have a gangster and a crook than an ideologue

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15 sats \ 4 replies \ @optimism 15h

Last time I visited my cousin in NL, they were watching the day 1 speech of their new PM and he said something like "We're very ambitious". I got so angry! Damn commies.

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I love Geert Wilders and Eva Vlaardingerbroek!

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15 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 2h

They're retarded

It's the timeline we're in, I believe

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coinos used to be cool, now it's a normie trap; there is probably a plot to overwhelm the service, by encouraging stupid non-value contributing people to overwhelmingly use the service for tiny zaps (and downzaps); there are serious merchants running their life on CoinOS - they have to learn how to migrate to other tools fast;

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That is complete and utter bullshit.

Coinos is unique in providing extremely cost effective LN use and access.

There have been multiple attempts to sabotage Coinos by sly and evil cunts who tout other much more costly LN wallets that are much less user freindlyand you are contributing to the vile misinformation they spread either wittingly or not.

Seek the truth and clean out the Bullshit from your narrative!

Note you have no attached LN wallets and so use only CC shitcoins.
You are not a Bitcoiner.
You are a poser and mischief maker, at best.

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interesting. I didn't know this

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edit is this even true??

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this betrayal from 603btc@shockwallet.app

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yooooo I didn't see you as an option homie!! my b

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Don't want one, no-no-nooooo!

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hehe they're going to yell at you!!

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