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So what would you say changed for you? Did you learn something new about the bitcoin influencer space? Or perhaps you learned something new about governments' view of bitcoin as a reserve asset / dollar hedge? Or the priorities of the bitcoin developers?

For me, I never expected much out of the influencer space or from state actors. The Core/Knots controversy, while annoying, is a necessary unavoidable debate over Bitcoin's future. Bitcoin's claim to better money is a function of its attributes, not a function of how others are acting in the moment.

I do believe that whether Bitcoin's attributes will necessarily lead to widespread adoption and value accumulation is an open question. For various reasons, a socially preferable money may not be preferable at the individual level given current circumstances, leading to a "failure to launch" situation. So maybe what changed is the assessment of the launch probability?

In any case, I think I personally always maintained a somewhat low weight / long time horizon on Bitcoin's launch potential, which may be why I'm not really surprised by Bitcoin's sudden downward price movement.

I made this point somewhere else recently, but the long time horizon part is pretty important.

Let's say everyone believes in eventual hyperbitcoinization, but the expected timeframe shifts out from 50 years to 80. That will have a dramatic effect on current prices, but it doesn't really change anything about bitcoin.

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What happened that suddenly shifted that collective estimation/timeframe shift? (Or would warrant such a shift).

All the things I'm seeing, at least compared to these prices a year or five ago, are much better... So what am I missing? What does the world know that I don't?

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Not sure

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Same. That really bugs me too, and why I find this so much worse than 2022... Back then, we learned quickly what was up when various shitty behaviour (yield, Financialization, fraud) blew up and mechanically shoved price down by fire selling.

Now? I'm at a loss to explain wth is happening

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Financialization

Now we have:

  • Saylor
  • ETFs
  • This obsession with borrowing fiat against bitcoin.

We need less of those and more circular economy. Just hold bitcoin and use it as MoE rather than letting third parties treasure it.

And the blockchain is being used to store graffiti because the bitcoin community has stopped caring about the movement and just trust the church (Core). Client monoculture is the elephant in the room we don't want to talk about.

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Yes, and it's also why I don't advise people putting 100% of their portfolio into Bitcoin. Who knows how long it'll takes to reach widespread adoption, and the twists and turns to get there? If it even gets there in our lifetime?

Kids still gotta eat

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Two weeks, or no dice

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25 years.

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Bitcoin's claim to better money is a function of its attributes, not a function of how others are acting in the moment.

You answered it pretty well, I'd say. The collective "we" don't want it — rather do all kinds of stupid things, in fiat and in Bitcoin — resulting in failure to ever become what its attribute allows (achieve its destiny etc).

biggest thing that changed: environment. Macro, rates, cycle timing, educational and services available, gold/geopolitics, no more chokepoint.
Basically, EVERYTHING pointing in the right direction (minus treasury company debacle), yet price going increasingly backwards.

I dunno, this is just not a mature, grown-up, respectable asset behaving like that. (Neither is gold, admittedly).

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