That's why his stance surprised me a little. I think for people who are more diligent and open-minded in research, more skeptical in general, and younger - it's easier for them to accept this.

But for someone who's achieved a lot in the field of medicine, who was trained decades ago, who prides themselves on being a doctor and doesn't accept that the medical industry has a very mixed history - this kind of info doesn't even make a dent in their worldview.

Still, honestly, I think it's still fairly controversial. Most people still believe that you should strictly limit beef, and if you eat meat at all you should eat low-fat.

Also just about everybody that's over 40, when I mention that I'm carnivore, says something like "how's your cholesterol?"