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You missed part of the point.
If you are excusing these actions due to politics and not liking the protesters that's not supporting the right to defend yourself. If you don't defend the right of someone you do not like then you aren't for rights. You just support getting what you want.
Trump and many politicians say a lot of stuff. Obama talked soft on many things that he was not soft on. Trump talks big on many things he never actually does. What is done does matter more than what is said.
What was done here does matter. The politics of this whole things is complete nonsense. People that oppose gun ownership sound like 2A advocates. 2A advocates sound like anti-gun nuts. Why? Politics.
The other aspect is that one can get something that you don't deserve. It does not seem to me that this dude deserved to be killed. But also at the same time... it wasn't smart. That isn't justifying the action. If sane people don't point out what will happen in these situations more people will die. We don't know if this guy knew what he was getting into here. I believe the state is evil and I act accordingly. Many that hate Trump LOVE the state. They just want their dude at the top. Many people die at the hands of cops no matter who is president because the state itself is evil. Trump is also evil. Get rid of him and you haven't really solved the problem.
To me, we have a lot of people living in lala land. A lot of these people protesting are as foolish as the J6 people. Maybe well meaning but foolish. There's a LOT of daylight between the Trump line and the protester/activist line.
The politics of this whole things is complete nonsense. People that oppose gun ownership sound like 2A advocates. 2A advocates sound like anti-gun nuts. Why? Politics
Not a really insightful comment for SN crowd (since we more or less already mainly think like this), but its worth mentioning that a helpful way to view the state is as a violence broker.
I don't mean a perpetrator per se, the state doesn't really have a will of its own, but more acts as a clearing-house broker that arbitrates violence between parties.
So, when Team A gets in power they hire Gov to perpetrate violence against Team B, and vice-versa.
The value-add that the state creates from a market perspective is "not going too far". So they help Team A enact as much violence against Team B that society can stand at any given point.
This is why its almost pointless to align yourself with political parties because >95% hold no real ideological principles. Its just whatever works at the moment....
when Team A gets in power they hire Gov to perpetrate violence against Team B, and vice-versa.
Yep
This is why its almost pointless to align yourself with political parties because >95% hold no real ideological principles. Its just whatever works at the moment....
Indeed this is the conclusion I have come to over and over again.
That said, one can change your mind at any time. But if team A thinks they have you in their pocket they ignore you.
I understand the argument and the richness of 2A advocates, like Trump /s, condemning the guy for carrying legally but this video said the two things I pointed out. Words, words, words, Trump can be a pedophile and wipe his ass with the Constitution as long as he appoints judges that are 2A friendly, words, words, words, this guy died because he was dumb enough to legally carry at a protest that put him into direct contact with agent of the state.
This guy said he only cares or speaks about the gun part of the situation but then immediately lays down the reason Trump is all good in his book because reasons. The video doesn't deliver on the stated point of the video. Noise and equivocation.
Trump can be a pedophile and wipe his ass with the Constitution as long as he appoints judges that are 2A friendly
OK.
That's a lot of words that can be summarized thusly:
Trump in power, regardless of any of the shit he does or says, is ok because he's better for 2A because of the judges he appoints and the guy brought it on himself for carrying at a protest and getting in an interaction with armed agents of the state.
The rest is just noise and equivocation.