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but it may also require transparently dumb assumptions, and you'd get called out for it.
That's true, and useful... but I can also just call them out for "transparently dumb assumptions" in plain text
slavery w extra steps, etc
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Perhaps they don't want to see clearly and would give up if asked to formalize their arguments ^_^
Sort of but not really. You can get a model to say whatever you want, but it may also require transparently dumb assumptions, and you'd get called out for it.