Introducing the all-new Club Orange Self-Custodial Wallet!
Same app, same experience, but now, your bitcoin is fully in your control.
Here's what's new:
✅ YOUR KEYS, YOUR COINS: Export your 12-word seed phrase.
✅NO LIMITS: Send, receive and hold as much as you want.
✅ FULLY PORTABLE: Import your wallet into any Spark-enabled app, or bring an existing Spark wallet into Club Orange
✅SEND ANYWHERE: Send and receive to any Lightning address, invoice, wallet.
Your keys. Your bitcoin. ⚡️
Learn more at: https://www.cluborange.org/self-custodial-wallet-announcement
trustodial?
Fully self-custodial.
I’m no pro at this stuff, but that’s not what people are saying about Spark.
Fair question. Spark is a statechain-based L2, so the trust model is different from base-layer Lightning: but in our implementation (Breez SDK) users hold their own seed, can export it, can withdraw on-chain to any BTC address, and can sweep to any other Spark-enabled wallet.
https://sdk-doc-spark.breez.technology/
does not equate to self-custody
does not equate to self-custody
with permission from spark operators
does not equate to self-custody
You're right that Spark isn't on-chain self-custody in the purest sense — operators co-sign exits. What we moved away from is custodial, where Club Orange (or a third party) held the keys and could freeze, seize, or lose user funds.
With Spark: user holds the seed, user can exit unilaterally to on-chain BTC, user can sweep to another Spark wallet. Operators can censor but cannot steal. That's a meaningful trust reduction vs. what we had before.
prove it. post a video walkthrough of a unilateral exit from club orange.
fwiw chatgpt doesn't understand the difference either
also
you still hold the customer's spark keys on your servers in a way that Club Orange can spend or lose those funds, yes or no?
No, keys are stored in the user device.
these guys don't understand the difference
Tell us more?
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Oh'reaaaally