I saw this pod from TRIGGERnometry, a couple of British guys discussing politics with notable guests.

This week they interviewed Jimmy Carr a well known British comic, famous for cutting close to the bone on his comedy routine.

The pod is basically about fourth turning kind of stuff, end of civilisation etc etc, you know all that stuff we've been talking about for years, and then 20 odd minutes in he drops this....

Just a small clip and the presenters, don't comment at all, the subject moves on but the seed is obviously planted somewhere in Jimmy's brain for him to mention it